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Kitchen cabinet, if you will, the advisors, the fox commentators, who are more than whispering in his ear on camera, do not do this mr. president, out of concern perhaps as adam schiff was already saying, that this would be another issue for obstruction of justice. >> presumably, as well, that's right. >> pete williams, on top of it all, joining me now, senior had to president obama, chief counsel for the senate judiciary committee and cnbc contributor sarah feigen, a white house political director for george w. bush. ron, you have gone through how many supreme court processes as a top aide on...

But there will be an explosion on capitol hill and i think throughout the country if trump tries to ourselves the person overseeing the russia investigation before the mid temples take pla terms take place. >> and getting sarah's view on all of these problems, you as a white house political director know very well what the stakes are here, let's talk first about judge kavanagh. >> well, stakes are pretty high and i think that's reflected in the late nature of these allegations. to the conversation around the fbi, the fbi's done an investigation. in fact they have done six investigations on bre...

So i think it does matter if we get someone trustworthy and someone who has experience that would be able to take over. >> thank you so much, jill. thank you for your persistence and patience with us today. >> thank you. >> also thanks to ron and sarah. my two colleagues in washington. joining me now is jeff merkley, senator merkley. thank you for being here. >> you're welcome. >> you're representing here the congress at the united nations as part of the routine and wanted to read to you while you've within busy focusing on foreign policy, sarah san s issued a statement saying that the reque...