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>> a discussion about how we cover this, but instead it was defensive and going on the attack on the president. howie: the white house list of 78 attacks. some with no casualties. we obviously cover attacks far more intensively when they are on foreign soil and not a place like britain and france. but they also include orlando and paris and nice which got saturation coverage. >> we just cover them so much and put so much fear out there, and that's the argument i think -- howie: president trump also talked about how the murder rate in our country is the highest it's been in 47 years. the next y...

>> a discussion about how we cover this, but instead it was defensive and going on the attack on the president. howie: the white house list of 78 attacks. some with no casualties. we obviously cover attacks far more intensively when they are on foreign soil and not a place like britain and france. but they also include orlando and paris and nice which got saturation coverage. >> we just cover them so much and put so much fear out there, and that's the argument i think -- howie: president trump also talked about how the murder rate in our country is the highest it's been in 47 years. the next y...

They start getting the national security brieferings as the nominee of their party, and even more so when they become the president, you find out about a whole bunch of things that you can't even imagine. you couldn't have even imagined how great the threat is in terms of terrorism. president trump addressed that today. take a listen. >> believe me, i've learned a lot in the last two weeks, and terrorism is a far greater threat than the people of our country understand. >> now, he's using this, katrina, to make the argument that his travel ban on seven countries as well as the refugee ban and ...

There are people pulled off vacation if they're anywhere in the region, they'll drop what they're doing and do a lot of this saturation coverage. i see this more of what the trump administration has been pretty open about. this goes all the way back to the convention and on the campaign trail where they said they are specifically trying to discredit the media as a source of information, that it is part of their politics, to make sure people have more attachment to the administration and its words and its interpretation of the truth than to the media. i think it's a fool's errand. i don't know ...

Will do if the ninth circuit doesn't reinstate the immigration ban. >> let's see where it goes. our goal right now is to get to a point where he can argue on the merits but we feel component based on how the court has reacted in massachusetts that were going to be good on the merits. >> the president today indicated he is in it to win it. >> we are going to take it through the system. it's important for the country regardless of me or whoever succeeds at a later date. we have to have security in our country. >> the white house stepped on its message a bit, releasing a list of 78 terror attacks...