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Privilege, but they reserved the right to invoke privilege down the line. so when it comes to whatever mueller produces, i guarantee you there's going to be, whether it's matt whitaker or the white house, there's going to be fights over what congress can know and it could go to the -- it could be a court case that goes all way to the supreme court. i mean, who knows. >> i think the real smoking gun here is just the permeation throughout the case of all the false statements. when you talk about it's the cover-up, it's the thing, what is it that everyone is trying to hide? there are just so many...

Because the white house has said, you know, while all the witnesses were being interviewed, they did not invoke privilege, but they reserved the right to invoke privilege down the line. so when it comes to whatever mueller produces, i guarantee you there's going to be, whether it's matt whitaker or the white house, there's going be fights over what congress can know and it could go to the -- it could be a court case that goes all way to the supreme court. i mean, who knows. >> i think the real smoking gun here is just the permeation throughout the case of all the false statements. when you tal...