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Great. please to have helman here. >> so john, before we get on, we are talking about what we were talking about yesterday, you have this past year, you have judges and election officials and you have judges of all strikes appointed by trump and appointed by obama. you name it who literally saved american democracy since it was in its most precarious state in 1885. time magazine -- >> i am not going to try to argue for us because that's a

Pieces. this is a result. we would never got this from our bell. it revolutionized the world. >> monopoly is like a democracy. when you have very few companies ta own everything, own all technology and everything now is technology. every time someone has a dream that could change the world. it's a large chance that will be gobbled up and killed because of these monopolies. mark zuckerberg is not just on a park with john rockefeller. the coal and oil and steel of that era did not have pipes and they did not have the power to make our teenage daughters hate themselves every single day. this is i...

It's the system gives us innovation and democracy and wiped out all the competitors and it's a run away train. >> capitalism is a free market of ideas. it's companies fighting each other. i always said in congress, you want lawyers to be able to go out and sue the hell out of companies. we can't figure out how to fix instagram's problems but i can tell you who can. the lawyers for instagram after they get crushed by class action lawsuits from parents of girls who have died or suffered emotional distressed because of them and suddenly, the lawyers come to -- hey, mark, listen, you are going to ...

The last generation we spent too much energy in people like that when the kind of people who get no love everyone when they stand in defense of democracy. >> not just the cover but person of the year. that's what i am raising and comparing to the doctors who did the vaccines and officers who did the right thing to save the capitol and save the lives. as a person of the year compares to the other people, that's what i want to talk about. >> i want to talk about what you have been looking at and study for some time. i do think we are coming to a point. we really didn't understand what was going ...

. i think this conversation reflects it and people watching this needs to actually educate themselves about the choices we face. either it's a plutocracy or a democracy can't have both. >> a great conversation. again, we have got commercial free. this commercial free of "morning joe" has brought to you by tesla. >> and spanx. >> for sure! >> thank you willie. >> keeping it tight. >> feeling good. >> still ahead on "morning joe," democrats launched a new effort to break the gop blockade on president biden's key diplomatic picks. plus, jim clyburn joins us in a report that democrats will pick on...