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May cause him harm because he was armed. she said he would be erroneously viewed as some sort of threat. it just struck me this community really, you know, saw guns as part of their daily life. experts said this is not uncommon certainly in some areas of the united states. both if not all had legal permits to carry guns, but it's another reflection of the kind of things that can contribute to names like this. >> thanks for helping us take a deeper dive to help us understand this verdict that we're reporting on this morning. appreciate this. >> thank you. tracking a lot of developments in the...

>> we're going after violent criminals, and we're going after vicious gang members. these people are so tough. but, you know, we had our ice agents out in long island. can you imagine? i grew up around queens in new york, which is sort of -- but i knew long island is sort of on the way, right? and places that i know so well are loaded up with ms-13. when your daughter walks home. and they don't use guns. you never saw guns. the nra happens to be very good people, by the way. they want to do the right thing. but they don't use guns. they don't use guns. they like to use knives and other things ...