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So those doctors sat with you. They poured out their worries. Did they talk about lucy letby . No, no. They talked actually at the time they didnt name anybody. What they talked about was in what they told when they contacted the chief constable, the fact that a nurse had been moved. They didnt actually name the nurse to me because i was at that meeting. I didnt have a lot of time because i had to make a decision on whether we were commencing an investigation or not. So i was focused on actually what does this mean medically . They told me that somebody had been moved and all the events had st...

Are you looking at other cases? yes, as expected. i'm sure the public would expect us to look at the entire footprint of lucy letby�*s career. there'd be parents would expect it, as with the communities of cheshire particularly have used the hospitals but wider. so we are committed to a thorough investigation. in the same vein that we've carried out already, all the way through lucy's placements at chester and at the liverpool women's hospital. we're at the early stages and we know how long it's taken. we are following the same pattern, so i don't believe it will take as long. but we have in...

In terms of the evidence, the defence also said nobody saw lucy. do anything. this is circumstantial. yes. what do you say to answer that? you know, i've been experienced in investigating murder and suspicious deaths. it's very rarely an eyewitness event. and often we are relying on piecing things together. and in this case, we've done just that. so i'm not... it's not unexpected to us when this started building and the case started to look sinister that she hadn't been witnessed because if she had, then i'm quite sure we'd have known about it at the time. so it doesn't surprise me because the...

One of the major questions surrounding this case is why would lucy letby do this? why are qualified and registered nurse, somebody who had chosen to enter a caring profession would then go on to murder and attempted murder davies in her care. we'rejoined now by dr naomi murphy, who is a consultant clinical forensic psychologist. doctor murphy, thank you forjoining us. i think one of the things that has come out of this trial, we have learnt so much about lucy letby�*s methods, about the medical impact that it had on the children. but one thing that is still missing is motivation. really nobo...