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Is. >> this underlines the need for facts. warner and burr, they're argue about facts not available to us. what did the interview and evidence show? i haven't seen that evidence. no one in the public has. that's why you know, usual way of the congress does investigations is they hold hearings. subpoena documents. maybe the senate judiciary committee should decide to release that evidence and let us all decide which one of them is telling the truth. i don't mean lying. just in terms of who was accurately characterizing. >> this is a tense moment right now in u.s. history. >> part of the issue i...

Not mueller, not the senate intelligence committee. we get drips and drabs of information, but there's no one really putting it together for anyone and american people in a digestible way. >> you're right. there was no public -- >> well, really, that's why you were see iing, campaign rally o the year. and that's why when you saw warner, i think the white house is preparing not only for this, but they note there's an onslaugt of investigations.

Released that manafort shared polling data in 2016 with kilimnick. he said they need to be investigated further even as republicans say at this point there's no signs of any collusion between trump campaign and the russians, but this revelation from the federal judge last night that paul manafort lied about those interactions with kilimnick add ing more fodder to mark warner as they push forward on the russia probe. >> you're right. it looks like this division on capitol hill over this in intensifying. >> it is and i think one of the reasons we see is clearly because now there's more focus on ...

About incidental collection and pay attention to this and ryan's take on that is that the white house knew what nunes would take up in the days after. process as mike shields points out. >> that was a fascinating depiction of what's gone down. i don't think muost of it was accurate. this investigation was proceeding as these types of investigations typically proceed, very quietly. most people couldn't have identified devin nunes if he was walking across the street. you saw warner and burr are continuing to do that. nunes got a little too close, way too close to the trump administration. many p...