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Public decides. it settles with those 16 to 19% that i believe astill persuadabe and say let's see where this is going. >> tara and michael, thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. coming up intelligence officials tell nbc news it's up to gina haspel to protect the ukraine whistleblower after a name is pushed by right wing outlets and retweeted by donald trump, jr. still ahead, vice president mike pence set to file president trump's paperwork for the primary in new hampshire today, joining a long list of democratic presidential hopefuls. dential hopefuls the pain and swelling. the psoriasis...

A defense. so where am i going with this? the president would wisely wait out the course of how the case runs its course on appeal and the other point i would throw in, neil, you could commute the sentence as was done with scooter libby. >> neil: interesting. when i talked to former arizona governor jan brewer, she wouldn't prejudge this or the wisdom of a pardon now but did say let's see what happens at the sentencing or the completion. you don't sort of prepardon someone when the legal process hasn't worked itself out. what to you make of that? >> no, that's a fantastic point you're making. ...

Assault on unions taking a course and a direction you don't want. if the president leads on reducing spending, particularly entitlement spending, it's not much. you listen to lindsey and dick durbin they say it should be on table. the president can benefit politically. but more importantly the country can benefit. i'm 40. i'm willing to give up my benefits until i'm 70. i believe there are more like me. i believe the president and republicans -- >> let me put this out. why shouldn't a democratic administration, this president say let's see what the republicans are willing to do? i went out big...

Want. if the president leads on reducing spending, particularly entitlement spending, it's not much. you listen to lindsey and dick durbin they say it should be on table. the president can benefit politically. but more importantly the country can benefit. i'm 40. i'm willing to give up my benefits until i'm 70. i believe there are more like me. i believe the president and republicans -- >> let me put this out. why shouldn't a democratic administration, this president say let's see what the republicans are willing to do? i went out big on health care and they weren't there. why not see what the...

40 cents of every dollar we spend we borrow, and in 20 years from now all the money we have in revenue will go to pay the debt, nothing left for the national defense, homeland security, et cetera. so, dick, let's do something about the tax code. . let's flant it out, do away with all deductions exception hoemt interest and charitable giving. let's be bold when it comes to medicare and let's put social security on the table in a ration enamel way. like ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. there's no reason not to adjust the age. over time for people under 55 to people 69 or 70. you around i can a...