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'♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." for about 10 minutes after defeat, hillary clinton appeared to retreat into seclusion. she went to the woodsnt near her home looking a little lost. some people made fun of her for doing that, but in fact it was a promising start. l humiliation can be the beginning of wisdom for those of us that have been fired in public. i can tell you. the period didn't last long. before long hillary was back on the road for years, like the circus. so many cities, so many excuses. >> the russians, let's say

'♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." for about 10 minutes after defeat, hillary clinton appeared to retreat into seclusion. she went to the woodsnt near her home looking a little lost. some people made fun of her for doing that, but in fact it was a promising start. l humiliation can be the beginning of wisdom for those of us that have been fired in public. i can tell you. the period didn't last long. before long hillary was back on the road for years, like the circus. so many cities, so many excuses. >> the russians, let's say wikileaks, same thing.

Next to keep us safe? two brilliant minds to take this on, gentlemen, thank you for being here. there's start with something i think we're going to agree on here. russian interference. do we all accept it happened, that they want to do it again and it's something that we need to have legislation and rules to protect against? >> yes. >> yes. >> how do we process this what i saw today? did you see it the same way, robert? the president conflates russian interference with the legitimacy of his own win. i've argued many times on this show, i don't see it that way. he won the election. it's over. b...

He won the election. it's over. but you heard them today again and again, where's the proof it was connected to russia? where's the proof with wikileaks? you heard the president say wikileaks, it's fake news. why resist the interference? >> it seems to be a substitute in the minds of many and even you did it in the lead in with russia collusion. i don't buy that one. i mean, i think the president is right to say that the russia collusion thing, if what you're talking about the proof of a conspiracy -- >> but i'm not. and i think it's an important distinction. >> we went through this drill at t...

Democrats, a novel defense you say? all, but got weirder from there. a lot weirder. hillary went on to deliver a narrative so complex he could barely follow it but we did. she explained how donald trump and russia teamed up to rob her of her rightful job as president of the united states. >> how did they know what messages to deliver? who told them? who told them? who were they coordinating with or colluding with? there are all the stories about guys over in macedonia who are running these fake news sites. the russians, and my opinion, and based on the intel encounter and tell people i have ta...