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Some insight into their thinking. quote, two appointees of president donald trump, justices brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett both aired concerns that texas' abortion ban was designed to abade constitutional law. quote, bottom line on the sb-8 argument is whether we continue to be a rule of law country or whether states can create constructs that deny their citizens constitutional rights but prevent federal court review. predictions, scotus won't permit it even if they reverse roe and dobbs. dobbs of course is the other case on abortion rights that this court is set to here soon exactly on...

Chilling effect is the very multiplicity of lawsuits that are threatened against you? >> yes, your honor. that's exactly right. it is the fact -- there's a combination of various ways that this state has created special roles, applicable only to sb-8 to make state courts a tool that can be used to nullify constitutional rights that have been recognized by this court. >> so much of this seemed to be about the ways in which this law could be applied elsewhere. the structure of it. i think for people who were tuning in and hearing the supreme court arguments for the first time, myself among them,...

Her, is a 16-year-old student denied an abortion because of sb-8. if they were not able to obtain financial assistance to travel, f.p.'s mother feared she would be, quote, forced to do something she's not ready for, become a parent which would take a toll on her. another c.n. and her husband live in east texas with their five children, the youngest of whom is an infant. she knew she wanted an abortion the second she saw the positive test. she said i used to love living in texas, now i hate it, it feels like we're prisoners. a nurse in oklahoma said many patients are coming to oklahoma with a s...

Welcome back. you're about to be looking live at the supreme court after justices heard arguments challenging the restrictive new abortion law. arguments we all heard as they happened. there she is. joining me now is pete williams who covers the supreme court and the justice department for nbc news. also with me the reporter for the new york times and nbc news contributor, and 'wls have a former new york state and federal prosecutor. she's now an nbc news analyst. pete, let's start with the argument that this law would lead to a deluge of lawsuits just as sotomayor asked a question about this,...

Any person anywhere except its own state officials. the only conceivable reason for doing so was to evade federal court review under ex parte young. >> meanwhile texas solicitor general argued federal courts were not the right venue to argue the case in the first place. >> an injunction against sb-8 the law itself, they can't receive that because federal courts don't issue injunctions against laws but against officials enforcing laws. no texas executive official enforces sb-8 either, and so no texas executive official may be enjoined. >> the justice department meanwhile is arguing that the tex...