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Implications? is it sort of a view into america right now? do you think if this vote goes the way the polls would indicate and resoundingly ohio ans reject it, do you think it says something bigger for ohio in 2012. >> i think it does. i think this vote in ohio is an example of people coming together and saying, you know, we've had it. we're not going to be pushed any farther. we're not going to be made scapegoats for problems that occurred on wall street for an economy that went down the tubes through no fault of -- i mean, let's face it. firefighter, teacher, police officers, these people do...

That you can simultaneously have, as in the 1930s -- you're quite right about that -- you can have a kind of uprush of adrenaline-driven populist fury, a kind of animal lashing out really. scapegoa scapegoats. in father coughlin's case it was the jews among others. at the same time, if you have a shrewd, determined canny leader of true setting the bar very high like franklin roosevelt and those around him. he can actually sponge up some of that anger and say, i understand you, i hear you and the presidency and my government is not the enemy of the forgotten man, of the small man. here is what ...