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It be a police officer, a School Security officer or a civilian who is carrying a concealed weapon, the shooter engages, shoots back and forth or commits suicide. Either way, the shooting of innocents stops. Its upsetting to read these documents knowing what actually happened that day. And it shows a failure byea Broward County Sheriffs Department either to properly train its officers or, in the case of maybe the current officer the officer who had to resign in disgrace, obviously he ignored the training if indeed he followed it. Tucker so this wasnt some hidden thing. This wasnt esoteric. Thi...

Which he was operating independently and not at the direction of trump. and i think filling in those blanks, flushing out the fact pattern and really figuring out how this operated is going to be a core thing. for someone outside of the january 6 committee to take on. it's a justice department issue. >> exactly. here's the thing. there's a lot more at stake here, first of all the young woman security. she has to deal with her own security issues. a young person. you have people like pat cipollone who makes decisions about going under oath. he indicated he's willing to speak behind closed doors...

Those people who stormed the capitol, many of them truly believed things that are not true, and we have to get our arms around that as a society if we want to climb out of this pretty dangerous precipice. >> ben, i read the book. it's pretty fascinating. you write it's always about russia, for the last century it's been for america, from the world wars to the cold war to sports, even our "rocky" movies, always about russia, russia, russia. so watching that putin biden summit that took place this week, do you feel as if we have moved less away from being -- having an adversarial relationship wi...

Defense right now s-i did not know it was illegal to order my subordinate to divert campaign funds to pay off and silence my affairs. that's his best legal argument. i just feel like as we move into next week and the holiday season, i would like people, his people, his lawyer, tv lawyer people to stop making that argument for him until he actually admits what we now all seem to know to be true that he did have affairs with two women and he covered it up with hush money. because he can't get to the legal defense part until he admits that core thing that he did. >> it wasn't campaign money and i...

Places and that's why they can't go back. you can't really say both, can you? >> no, i think the position in the lawsuit, and certainly if you look at the designation that supports this is that the justifications for granting temporary protected status to people from el salvador and haiti and sudan and nicaragua remain in place today. the countries continue to be -- >> tucker: no, no, no. but about -- so trump's comments, the ones that were reported, and we don't really know exactly what he said. but i'm willing to believe he said that, because it's true, by the way. a lot of these countries a...