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Actual list of strings that might be at tamped. and the president has said he doesn't -- he doesn't want any. so this is far from being resolved, wolf. i do believe, as we were talking about before, the republicans are looking for some kind of a fig leaf as a way to get out of this because those poll numbers are scaring them. they know this has been a bad political move for them. and suddenly, of course, we're not much talking about obama care anymore which is what got them into this in the first place. >> you think they're really beginning to feel the heat? i know senate republicans are feeli...

And how they feel about obama care. listen to what harry reid said about his conversation this morning with john baner. >> i just finished a telephonic conversation with speaker boehner. my message to him was very simple. we have to stop playing these foolish games that keep coming to us from the other side of the capitol. this is not about him or me. about scoring points for one side or the other or name causing. like the villain of villains. it's about doing the right i think it for the american people. they expect us to act like adults. >> now, in this letter, he proposes that the speaker a...

This is not about him or me, about scoring points for one side or the other, name calling like the villain of villains. it's about doing the right thing for the american people. >> that was senate majority leader harry reid on capitol him moments ago telling reporters he spoke with speaker john boehner on the phone about the government shutdown. reid, boehner, nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell are all expected to meet with president obama at the white house around 5:30 p.m. today. okay. moving now to the gripping documentary "let the fire burn," which chronicles the battle between philadelphia...

Is the department of justice reading the e-mails of reporters? what happened in ben ghazi and getting to the truth of that? >> fox news reporters? >> these are important questions to answer so we can't separate those two. maybe the public isn't excited and fascinated about them but they are things we need to talk about and sort out. >> the part of journalism is talking about stories that matter and whether or not it's good for the public. this isn't about scoring points. it's about if somebody did something illegal or unethical they need to be held accountable and frankly we need to set that s...

Techina way, i think he might have been able to bring the republican party further on tax reform, not raising tax rate, lowering the tax rates, but doing away with the loopholes and using that money in a deficit deal and then persuade the democrats to go with the spending cuts and entitlement reform. the one thing he said, he said he did this as governor of massachusetts. i worked with the legislature, 87% democrat. you don't go out campaigning, scoring points. have you to bring them into the room, closed door, no leaks, no bashing and just do business and make the deal. >> he's not there beca...