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Considering the fact that, in a way, it would be them legitimizing the january 6th committee and the insurrection. i mean they are the most pro-trump of trump supporters in congress right now. >> well, and we did have the experience of both jim jordan and elise stefanik on the judiciary committee and through the impeachment process where they played the role of trump defender extraordinaire. i don't think it is going to matter. i think given the makeup, democrats having majority control of the committee, i think they're going to dictate a lot of the terms, and republicans will be making noise ...

And elise stefanik on the judiciary committee and through the impeachment process where they played the role of trump defender extraordinaire. i don't think it is going to matter. i think given the makeup, democrats having majority control of the committee, i think they're going to dictate a lot of the terms, and republicans will be making noise while democrats are going to be -- and liz cheney are going to be producing evidence. so, you know, it is going to look like a side show on one side and a search for truth on the other. >> got it. donna edwards, brendan buck. have a happy 4th. thanks f...

Absent from tonight's festivities? former-vice president mike pence and that is my head scratcher of the week. pence diverged from the trump narrative during a thursday-night speech, where he called the january-6th insurrection un-american. his most, i should say, forceful attempt, yet, to distance himself from his former boss. >> and the truth is there is almost no idea more un-american than the notion that any, one person could choose the american president. and i will always be proud that we did our part. on that tragic day to reconvene the congress and fulfilled our duty, under the constit...

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Coming up, person, woman, man, camera, tv. what that has to do with my head scratcher of the week. new reporting this week revealing trump organization money man allen weissleberg may be close to criminal charges. what he knows about donald trump that could get him off the hook. stay with us. hey, i'm alicia menendez. ahead for us, we'll talk with reverend william barbaraer and natasha brown. expert medical advice on that new covid variant that's accounting for about 10% of all new covid infections in the u.s. that starts 6:00 p.m. eastern, "american voices" right here on msnbc. he found...