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Mention humanitarian relief, we're prepared to not only discuss but to support efforts to expand all of those. >> what about the physical structures? >> well, the physical structure, we have physical structures. we've supported fences in the past. >> they need more? >> well, when you say they need more, again, the republican senators and the republican former chairman of the homeland security committee who was in charge of making these kinds of judgments said, you know, the wall is not the most effective and efficient way to go, and we share that view. however, having said that, we want secure...

Mention humanitarian relief, we're prepared to not only discuss but to support efforts to expand all of those. >> what about the physical structures? >> well, the physical structure, we have physical structures. we've supported fences in the past. >> they need more? >> well, when you say they need more, again, the republican senators and the republican former chairman of the homeland security committee who was in charge of making these kinds of judgments said, you know, the wall is not the most effective and efficient way to go, and we share that view. however, having said that, we want secure...

As they unfolded last night, one of the things i think we can take away from this tragedy is that there are really three different events. there is the load in, the event, then there is the egress or the exit. i think a lot of times, security providers predominantly focused on the load in, so the front end of this where they will have stand off distances, appropriate parameters, screen vehicles, screen people, have explosive amtrak and canine dogs, things of that nature but after that sometimes there is not as great to focus on ensuring you have a safety zone to release people into. i remember...