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They? chris lowery has thought a lot about this, he's the chief's editor of national review and is author of the new book the case for nationalism, how it made us powerful, unitive, and free. i want to put on the screen a quote from your book, let's start with this one. nationalism you write should not be a dirty word where it has been an indispensable element of our success and is still vital and ongoing national project. it shouldn't be a dirty word, why is it? >> people misunderstand it and are very lazy about it. they think it's tantamount to fascism or militarism or racism which is comple...

Rich lowry has thought a lot about this. he's also author of the new book, the case for nationalism and how it made us powerful, united and free. so i want to put on the screen a quote from your book, a couple of them. nationalism the right should not be a dirty root word especially in this country where it has been centuries old and still vital and ongoing national project. so it shouldn't be a dirty word, why is it? >> because people misunderstand it and they think it's tantamount to fascism or militarism or racism which is completely false. they are very old and very natural, they are very ...

Energy. in the heyday of american industrialism, we got 100 barrels of oil out of the ground for every barrel equivalent we put in. and now with stuff like shale, it's more like 5 to 1. and the aggregate average is about 17 to 1 and we can't really run our industrial economy and all of its luxuries, accessories and furnishings at the that ratio. so we've been trying to compensate for that by ramping up a lot of debt. basically borrowing from the future in order to pay for the way we live now. >> tucker: and you said basically our political establishment -- i want to put on the screen a quote f...

The supreme court said hey, wait a minute, these religious non-profits have the ability to opt out of this and have a third party insurer provide this contraception care for the employees of these non-profits and so therefore, it doesn't violate their rights. we're waiting to see what the non-profits have to say in response to that and then all of this will potentially go to the supreme court. we may get some kind of guidance from the court at some point today as to whether or not this temporary stay is going to last for the next several weeks to months before the supreme court issues a final ...

Wasn't, right? >> right. >> i think it behooves the vice president to go over there -- >> thepivoting to asia means it the end of the cold war, the soviet union is not our biggest single foreign policy challenge. it is china. it's not as dangerous as the soviet union was, more ambiguous kind of situation but we need a security architecture. that's what the pivot to asia should mean. >> it's important for the vice president as well because this vice president may run for president one day. this role, this trip is going to be very important. we'll see how it turns out for him. >> let me put up o...