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This time than what we might have otherwise been expecting. If the allegations in this indictment are proven Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and a jury convicts some of these crimes, history will not ask, wow, how did america get to the point where they indicted a former president . History instead is going to ask, how did america get to the point where such a person could be elected to the presidency of the United States. Were actions such as these could be carried out from the oval office directed by a person who was elected president by the American People, along with his advisers. This is a grav...

The special coverage. He is of course innocent until Proven Guilty and he will and should mount a robust defense against these charges, and he should be acquitted if he didnt do what he is accused of. But if the allegations made by the Justice Department in this indictment are proven, if the former president did what he is accused of, history is going to ask a different question of this time than what we might have otherwise been expecting. If the allegations in this indictment are proven Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and a jury convict some of these crimes, history will not ask, wow, how did amer...

along with joe, willie and me, we have pulitzer prize winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post," eugene robinson. and president emeritus of the council on foreign relations, richard haass, back with us this morning. >> he somehow becomes even more distinguished. >> he does. >> amazing. >> erudite is the word that come comes to mind. >> yes. willie, we'll get to the whistleblower that comer couldn't find, and then must be humiliated, as they found him in the southern district of new york. >> oh boy. oh no. >> a spy or something like that. we'll get to the details...

for a fund raising push. and it was the state where he bagged it. so what's next for ron desantis after his distant second place finish in iowa? what he just told nbc news. our reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin in new york where a jury was just seated moments ago in the e. jean carroll trial. msnbc's lisa rubin just stepped out court. give us your headlines. >> reporter: we just finished with the selection of a jury of nine people. one of the things that struck me about the jurors selected is how nonspecific they were about their media consumption. th...

bring ryan riley, i want to thank him as well, and everyone who was here tonight. i want to throw to another big gun, chris hayes. i toss it to you, my friend. this is one of the biggest nights i think for any of us who are in this business. it is a night of pathos not joy in the sense that the american republic is having to witness this integration of the presidency or the former presidency in the form of the apparently now confirmed indictment of donald trump. now c>> there is something so different about the manhattan district attorney indicting donald trump for actions that he to...