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He thought would enable him to blackmail his predecessor. and he says, break in, i don't give a damn how you get that file out of there, i want to break the safe. get into that safe. the president of the united states. >> we had nixon on the record in hundreds of hours of his tapes not justifying, but explaining what he was doing in the oval office in the white house. and every time, it's do something illegal, screw somebody, get the irs on larry o'brien's taxes who is a leading democratic. get the fbi on this person. >> you know, one of the other things that woodstein shared with me, as more ...

With us. thank you so much for your time, greg miller, with the "washington post." >> thank you. it's been 80 years since the nixon conduct. >> there was never that sense of let's harmonize and solve the big problems. it was always, let's screw somebody, let's get the irs on them, let's get -- >> criminality as a policy of implementation. that's what's so astonishing. you hear so seldom on those tapes let's go the right way on anything, it was always, what's the criminal way to do it, in essence? >> that was back in 1972 when henchmen working for the white house were trying to bug the headqu...