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Are the progressals that i rely on. they've showed me and told me what needs to be done. we already have 600-plus miles -- john: so why is that lost on all of your colleagues? >> because now it seems like the border's going to protect us with 700 miles of wall or fencing, whatever, i'll call it a secured structure the, is downing to be the catch-all. that's not the case. we can stop -- most of our ports of entry is where our drugs are coming through. can't we have screaming, sensors, things of that sort? john: isn't that what he's proposing? >> senator manchin, we are good friends, he's been c...

For 70 miles of barriers and a whole lot more money than anybody's talking about right now. speaker pelosi has been for barriers in the past. you know, the whole idea that somehow 650 or 700 miles of barriers are appropriate but 702 miles are immoral, that is a incredibly interesting place to draw your line about what's moral and what's not moral. i think this debate got with way too political. i do think, let me say again, i think the president has shown more willingness to move so far than others have. but we need to solve this. we need to solve it in three months. it may look like right now...

This point. trump politically is in a situation where he has had for the last two years a solid base that has been behind him no matter what happens. but, john, you were at these rallies in 2016 as i was, and i was constantly struck by the fact that a lot of trump supporters when he had the chants about build the wall, who will pay for it, that wasn't just a political talking point for a lot of people. they actually wanted the policy to be implemented. john: exactly. >> this was not just rhetoric. is so i think he knows that base that has been so loyal, this is one issue where they could crumb...

But i think there ought to be a pathway for some. that would change the whole complexion of this, the whole dialogue would change if that could be done. as far as the 5.7 billion if that's the number, we're figuring how to you split that up. and let the professionals -- we've proven it's hard for us because with the president and white house and the legislature, we've locked horns on this thing. no wall, all wall, halfway in between. let the professionals tell us what it takes to keep us safe. drugs is a big problem in my state. john: absolutely. >> how do we stop the drugs. people that, basic...

Legally and said, gee, we're in the united states of america -- john: sounds like you've got a lot to talk about. >> we do. these are not new issues, is the other point, john. john: no, of course. >> these are issues that members of congress don't know a lot about. there's nothing we're going to learn, frankly, in the next three weeks we don't know now. so let's get started, let's find solutions. let's not continue to disappoint the people we work for by not showing the ability to work together. john: and ronald reagan learned in the 1980s the dangers of cutting a deal on -- >> in 2013 we pass...