A machine whos been in and out of a lot of stories here. Bernie carrick facing questions about the efforts to capitalize on the big efforts after election day, including a kind of grift and questions of wire fraud. Jack myth also continues to probe the elector fraud scheme. Giuliani an Unindicted Coconspirator there. There are new subpoenas that came out in the last week as they bear down on that plot. Meanwhil there may be other people who tried to steal your vote who could be held to account. Some of that, as journalists a little behind where the probe could be. Next the trial. Jack smith sparring with trumps attorneys over the evidence rule, the protective order which has to do with whether donald trump would use or abuse certain information. Theres a new filing where smith and his team are seeking a case that would try this case in the media rather than the courtroom. The Special Counsel referencing media over the past weekend. You see there, what they call the full ginsberg, the p
tanks. the old we didn t send in the tanks defense. as journalist wes appreciate anyone taking questions. we re learning in the process. this is where there s a gap between what jack smith wants and other public transparent institutions want, which is as much information as possible. trump s slated to attend a hearing in florida in the other espionage case on thursday, which means his lawyers are asking for a different time for the next meeting on all this because, well, they re busy with donald trump s criminal case load. we are here tonight with a former sdny civil prosecutor, civil lawyer, maya wylie. welcome back. thanks for having me. we showed some of that, what mr. lauro is saying. as for the question about whether or not donald trump crossed lines going after people, i want to play more from trump defense lawyer john lauro. i think it s a little bit different than our standard case where we would pull our hair out if a client comment on a
where the storage room was located, and observed and pointed out surveillance cameras. then de oliveira told another trump employee that, quote, their conversation should remain between the two of them. and de oliveira asked that employee, quote, how many days the server retained footage? the employee responded that he believed it was approximately 45 days. to which de oliveira insisted that the boss wanted the server deleted and asked, what are we going to do? joining me now is maya wily, former sdny civil prosecutor, thanks for getting the show started. maya, you ve now had the chance to review this superseing indictment. we were going through it last night together. i wanted to get your new thoughts now on the extent of donald trump s attempts to obstruct justice through not only deleting or attempting to delete the surveillance footage at mar-a-lago, but also i think buying cooperation from nauta and de oliveira through things
specifically targeting aubrey because of his race, because he was black. the wider context, the fbi last year reporting hate crimes reached the highest level in decade. but for aubrey s parents, life has forever changed. i told the doj that, yes, they were prosecutors. but one thing they didn t have, they didn t have a son that was lying in a cold grave. and they still can hear many i cry. i give the glory to god. and we have justice for ahmaud. he got a vuktry today. but so many families out there that don t get victories. we re jound by former sdny civil prosecutor who worked in the field of civil rights for some time. you re reaction? my reaction is garland was right. you know this is justice.
have been banned from voting in a state, the submission, if fake part, that s what becomes illegal. that what boris epshteyn basically admitted to pursuing in an interview here on the beat. there s also been reporting about the attempt to seat fraudulent electors. is that something you ever worked on or would support in michigan? that s so funny. not fraudulent electors. it s alternate electors. because of the constitution laid out in the constitution. a quote, we fought to see the electors, the trump campaign asked us to do that. did you ever make calls like that regarding what you re calling these alternate electors? yes, where was part of the process to make sure there were alternate electors. let s go to legal experts. i m joined by sdny civil prosecutor, maya wiley, and melissa murray. good to see both of you. professor murray, this is what law school textbooks are made