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They want to hear. ana? >> let me ask you about a related development, barbara. the three navy s.e.a.l.s. pictured with officer eddy gallagher will not face the review board. tell us more about that. >> yeah, that's right. of course gallagher -- this is what really led to spencer being fired. very complicated. there was going to be a review board, an impartial military review board of all of those navy s.e.a.l.s. being able to keep their s.e.a.l. status upon retirement. the president intervened in the gallagher case over the objections of the navy secretary and said he would keep his try dent,...

Hearing? >> defense secretary mark es pechesper has just met with a small group of reporters to explain why the navy secretary was fired by him over the weekend. according to mark esper, the defense secretary, the navy secretary was engaged in back channel communications with the white house to try to basically assure while there might be a review of gallagher, he would get to keep, at the end of the day, his s.e.a.l. status, which was very important to him. and that's not what esper had been pushing for with the white house. esper had been pushing for letting the military justice system take ...

I really think time to rip the band-aid off here. there has been a great deal of concern about all of this. these are cases that involve allegations of war crimes. now, does the president of the united states have the legal right as commander in chief to step in, intervene, and order people to be kept on their s.e.a.l. status, order them to have their rank restored in the other cases, order them pardon? of course he has the right as commander in chief. but what we keep hearing is just because he has the right to do it, should he do it? what is the implication for good order and discipline? the...

Talks in his forces resignation letter writing, i no longer share the same understanding with the commander in chief who appointed me. i cannot in good conscious obey an order that i believe violates the sacred oath i took. >> this is all about ego and retaliation and has nothing to do with good order and discipline. they could have taken my trident any time they wanted and now they're trying to take it after the president restored my rank. >> reporter: and now gallagher is expected to retire in a few days at the end of the month with the s.e.a.l. status in tact. secretary mark esper the penta...