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That we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora doesn't happen again. and there is a big chunk of space between what, you know, the second amendment means and having no rules at all. and that space is what joe's going to be working on to try to identify where we can find some common ground. so i've got -- i'm going to take one last question. go ahead, jay. >> reporter: it seems, to a lot of observers, that you made the political calculation in 2008 and 2012 not to talk about gun violence. you had your position on renewing the ban on semi-automatic rifles,...

But, that left a lot of questions. what about larger weapons? what about conceal carry rules? that's what this case is about, whether conceal carry rules are constitutional. there have been varying decisions on that. basically, what the supreme court is doing is allowing the lower court decisions to percolate around before they issue what the second amendment means. >> what we haven't heard is whether they will take up the travel ban case, the president's travel ban. >> nor have we heard anthony kennedy's future career plans. >> what is why you cannot go further. thank you so much. those are t...