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And it's spending hundreds of millions of dollars to both scare people and also then use guns as the dividing point. and that's -- you know, it's so unfortunate, because we all want to keep our families and communities safe. but it's not a -- it's not a gun safety or even just a second amendment organization. it's one that does nothing more than tries to use this to drive a wedge for politics. and i think that we as a country are better than that. >> the president, you know, obviously the shooter in el paso echoed some of the president's words in his manifesto. he wanted to stop a hispanic inv...

Semiautomatic. >> you don't want them banned as congressman turner now does. but when the second amendment o goes in front of the supreme court and anyone with a common gun should be allowed. the one thing mass shooings have in common, the common gun are the assault weapons. >> actually, very, very -- very, very few crimes occur in this country with assault weapons and rifles. >> mass shootings. >> again, very, very crimes. most crimes. >> mass shootings but nobody wants mass shootings and this is the gun usesed for that congressman, go ahead. >> i think we can focus on what is common ground. ...

10-year-old think no one loves him? or how do we have the alienation of people where they feel like they're all alone and that we need to do more on that? but it's also -- it's not just a mental health issue. it's certainly an availability and access of firearms that we as a country need to do more. and i believe that most people in this country know that we need to do more. >> you're from a red state obviously. a state voting for trump and voted for you the nra you stood up to them. as you point out gun owners overwhelmingly support more gun control. the nra has taken you on, spoken out again...

Purchasers. these are by definition criminals. and shouldn't have guns. and i -- we did bi camerale or bipartisan legislation that would have addressed this. i was vehemently opposed by the national association of gun rights and the national rifle association. that's when i dropped my life membership of the nra. i'm a gun owner have 12 guns, ar 15. i don't consider it an assault weapon no more lethal than a hunting riefrl but that don't prohibit me from advancing common sense legislation including the red flag law. i'm hopeful presiden trump will lead in this area and force mitch mcconnell to ...

Can't do anything. we can't do anything. the nra is morally in my view and intellectually bankrupt, they don't advance anything of any substance whatever. it's all no. so we're not getting this done with any help from the nra. and frankly we are not getting this done with help from mitch mcconnell. with all respect to the senator, i very much disagree that senator mcconnell is just reflecting the will of his conference. i don't think that is the will of the conference. i think he is bending to the will of the nra. that's my view. >> all right. we'll leave it there thank you both very much. a...