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Almost dare the democrats to take this to the next level and even then, their cooperation isn't assured. you mentioned that letter talked about in nbc news reported last week, it's unclear if that letter or multiple letters are going to be sent to the congress to make sure they have certain obligations in the white house's view to do certain things before they get the full cooperation from the white house. now, one thing you don't hear from the white house is any talk of trying to prevent either the pentagon or the state department from either producing documents or making potential witnesses ...

So in a way that protects the information. that's one o the reasons why myself and our colleagues put our name to this letter. shouldn't have to do this. it should self-evident to all. if nothing else, it will put in the public domain, the idea that acting against the interests of the whistler now should be viewed as an unpatriotic act. >> thank you for join iing me. a former national security official in the united states. he served in the last three administrations include uing under president trump. i want to bring in eric. a partner of san francisco whistleblower law firm can stan teen can...

Trying to get more information out of all of these players in the ukraine drama. >> okay. so i'm going to ask you the next question as if my colleague stephanie ruhle were sitting next to me because she is. in the golden age of letter-writing and asking people to do things, most people connected to the white house, donald trump, in this case rudy giuliani, have exactly the same answer to those letters. they take the letter, they read it, and then they do this, and they throw it away. what happens? >> reporter: well, if there's a subpoena this becomes potentially more complicated. these men cou...

Anything done to undermine these protection will make us less safe over time and less informed over time want what our government is doing. >> so we happen to know from history, from water gate to the military through government when i whistle blowers that some of the biggest things we never would have known and it was really good we did know, came from whistle blowers. graham is a military guy. wi would republicans not see this as clearly as anyone else? you're a whistleblower. you should protect whatever side. whoever they tend to damage or protect. >> well there's a tendency to look at whis...

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