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Our country. if you have concerns, we are not afraid. why didn't he come before me and brought the information. martha: if this program worked, it should have caught these guys in boston. if you are tracking overseas information, you have got youtube, you have got text messages and cell phone calls. it sounds like it was precisely the time to catch somebody like these guys. it's an embarrassment they were not able to catch them when they are doing this extraordinary amount of data mining. >> remember we are putting the safeguards inner to civil liberties. it should have to go before the courts...

Information is public. chairman mike rogers slams the leak. he says snowden should be prosecuted to the extent of the law. >> putting just enough out there to be dangerous is dangerous to us, it's dangerous to our national security and violates the oath which that person took. i absolutely think they should be prosecutioned. martha: the obama administration has taken the first steps in the criminal investigation of snowden in this week. bill: rand paul wants to challenge the tracking of phone calls and e-mails. >> we are talk about trolling through billions of phone

Medical care. welcome, stuart. there is a lot of reasonable concerns raised by gathering of all of this information. it's not that everyone nicks you will be watching and listening to phone calls. if you they have a red flag on you. they have a treasure trove of stuff at their hands. >> these exploding scandals are putting obama-care in focus. do you trust your government with the health information you will have to hand over with obama-care in your health records are going online. do you trust the government not to look at them? number two, your health insurance information about be demanded ...

Subject sphere and divorce it from what we know from what we know about the nsa. phone calls made from one number to another number on stuff a date. there is a large amount of information connected with that with hundreds of millions of phone calls a day. but what that's revealing for political purposes like the irs is of a much different magnitude. with the irs you had an applicant who was of a political persuasion because the name of their group or the charter of their organization depicted them as conservative. we had irs agents using that information to basically go after them. there is no...

Wanted to. >> speedy one. okay, thank you for joining us today. this is what eric clapper said three months ago. he said does the nsa collect any type of data at all on hundreds of millions of americans. no, sir, it does not. not willingly. there are cases where they could collect enough for me, but not willingly. what did he not know it was not being truthful? >> when you talk about targeted collection and just data collection, aggregated data collection. you're talking about putting on this data. if you have a probable cause to have a reason to go back and look for it. if you have the name o...