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And that is -- that's a particularly -- that's a tough hit, i think, on the administration today. >> now, people will say oh, you and your anonymous sources, who are these people? bring up the text messages from volker, from acting ambassador taylor, the guy put in to replace the woman they didn't like for pushing back on this kind of stuff and ambassador to eu sondland, who was supposed to testify today. taylor says, as i said on the phone, i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance to help with a political campaign. this was the second time taylor had said this in this thread, by the...

Up, basically evidencing what we saw from acting ambassador taylor in terms of, hey, are we really conditioning this aid on this deal with biden? and then we know that moves forward to a point where the energy secretary comes back from ukraine, says to the president, i think you should work with guy in ukraine, i think he's legit, wants to do right. the president says go to rudy, convince him, you get my okay. what's your take? >> i see a very biased process here that is not following press detective, but i'm more concerned that the democrats are trying to impeach a sitting president using a s...

They can't be written off as obama people, they're partisan. they're their own folks and infrastructure and that's a particularly -- that's a tough hit i think on the administration. >> people will say you and your anonymous sources. who are these people? bring up the text messages from volker. from acting ambassador taylor who replaced the woman they did.ant like for pushing back on this kind of stuff and ambassador to sondeland. this was the second time taylor had said this in this thread, by the way and sondeland says the president has been crystal clear no quid pro quo of any kind.

So put on your investigator hat for a second. the idea of after the call people scrambling, talking to lawyers about how to clear it up, basically evidencing what we saw from acting ambassador taylor in term s of are we conditioning the aid on this deal with biden? and we know that moves forward to a point where the energy secretary comes back from ukrain and says from the president i think you should work for this guy. and the president says to him go to rudy. convince him you get my okay. >> i think a lot of this is based on anonymous sources we can't confirm. i see a very bias process not f...