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Democrats. very unfairly, because they have a tiny margin in the house. they have eviscerated the rules. they don't give us any fair play. >> the rules to previous impeachment proceedings, you'll participate in that investigation? >> if the rules are fair. >> trump went on to predict his showdown with the democrats would likely end up at the supreme court. the problem for him is he is up against this clause from the constitution, quote, "the house of representatives shall have the sole power of impeachment." that's what it says in article i, section ii. there are no other rules whether to laun...

Blocked legally, which we expect there is going to be some type of legal battle surrounding this executive order. he can go back to his base, head out on the campaign trail and say i continue to fight for this signature issue. this issue really that i launched my whole campaign on. so he sees this as energizing even if it doesn't wind up on the census. of course the census has already started to be printed. there are real questions surrounding how practical this actually is and what the timeline of this would look like. >> can you help us understand the legal aspect of this? because the consti...

Court ruling that said they can't put this question on the census. do you have any idea what that plan might be? >> well, what the think is inside the main justice building, but a few ideas floated on opinion pages or editorials about a new rationale that the government could put forward. one idea was that this was in a hugh hewitt column that ran in "the washington post." it was to say that the government needs information -- precise information about the number of noncitizens in the united states because several democratic candidates have suggested expanding health coverage to include immigr...

Close call. do you think today's hearing or the idea that more americans get exposed to the details in the report is going to move the needle either on the number of people who think impeachment on hearings should take place or on the opinion that people have formed about the president? >> ali, i absolutely do. and remember now, the speaker of the house has given us a ea standard of absolute -- absoluteness, of tightness, conciseness, and i think part of it is moving the political needle of the american people. when the impeachment proceedings actually started in watergate, the american people...

What joyce vance said struck me. the facts contained in the report are sufficient to prove all the elements necessary to charge obstruction of justice. the evidence is not equivocal nor is the charging decision a close call. do you think today's hearing or the idea that more americans get exposed to the details in the report is going to move the needle either on the number of people who think impeachment hearings should take place or on the opinion that people have formed about the president? >> ali, i absolutely do. and remember now, the speaker of the house has given us a standard of absolut...