Intense commodities trader, my dad who is farmer and farmers can now trade commodities from their combines. you can do it. >> i've disowned commodities two years in my investments to not be -- >> were invented for farmers and japanese rice farmers so it's actually one of the parts of the market that is really sensible. everything you guys say is true but it's not the main point. the big thing that is happening here -- and commodity prices will rise medium term because the chinese are starting to eat meat. right? so there is a long-term secular trend. this is not like florida real estate. >> i ...