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That, zelensky underscores the conte conte content surrounding the conversation. they're talking about security aid, white house visit, zelensky is saying, remember, we are at war, we're at war right now. the united states seeing this country ukraine as not a corrupt place as holding it up, having a white house meeting sends a message to the rest of the world and also very importantly to vladimir putin, how did you read that interview today? >> you know, it's interesting when i read that, the term diplo-speak came to mind. very classic diplomatic speak from the president of ukraine. we are at ...

>> reporter: that's right, jim. tonight, two sources are telling cnn ukrainian officials are still exploring ways to improve their country's relationship with the united states and particularly to be more favorable in trump's eyes. one of the ways they're looking at that potential for opening new investigations to satisfy president trump's political motives as it relates to ukraine. the heart of this impeachment inquiry is the president's and aids' pressure on ukraine to carry out politically motivated investigations and 2016 inquiry into the bidens and that is something perhaps on the table f...

Release the hold on aid to ukraine. that happened on september 11th. we did not previously know whether or not the president knew about the whistleblower complaint when he made that decision. now we know that he did indeed have that knowledge. also two days before that on september 9th is when the president spoke with the u.s. ambassador to the european union gordon sondland and unprompted told sondland no quid pro quo, that he wanted nothing from the ukrainians. there was a question as to how the president could say no quid pro quo when he had not even been accused of committing a quid pro qu...

Complaint influence the president's decision to release that security aid to ukraine? according to the "new york times" we learned that the president was briefed in late august about that whistle-blower complaint. that comes, of course, two weeks before the president ultimately did agree to release that security aid to ukraine. that was september 11th when the president agreed to do that, and two days before that, brooke, also another key event that is important in this context of this new revelation which is the president's phone call with gordon sondland, ambassador to the european union. so...

>> i would suggest rudy giuliani and some of the other president's men go take a trip and see what it feels like in prison and understand -- he's not doing hard time. he's not in danger, but the depressing nature of being locked up where you can't leave. i think rudy and some of the others should do a check and go up and see what that feels like before they decide how this is going to play out. a career official in the office of management and budget undercut the white house's defense for freezing security aid to ukraine during closed door testimony. associate director for national security ...