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Articulate and do it against trump who thrives in the situations. >> what do you make of this steve? i thought paul was good at doing what he does which is defend the values against the security state. in a republican fight, it goes back to ron paul again. it goes back to that 9/11 say 9/11 and immediately you win the security argument. i knew people that were killed. that sentiment, which is fair enough, of course just drives the audience and the audience goes. they don't think in terms of who is in my pocket and who is in my computer house. >> that was the other big squabble of the night. do...

Flipped the switch in this guy's brain and we are probably going to find out when we execute the search warrants. going through computers. cell phones. we're going to find out how that happened. or did someone else radicalize him. >> you think there is a trail? >> there is always a trail. >> dan, i want to talk about the security situation, the posture at these locations. the first place this guy hit was a recruiting center military recruiting center. by design they're meant to be inviting and accessible. >> right. listen always the argument liberty, security argument. i default to liberty. an...

Children across the border is act of desperation to give your family a better life. >> in listening to this and chuck's excellent wrap-up summation of political inefficiency over decades with republican mantle and democratic mantle, is that basically you're talking about an extended period of time where both parties are unable to govern, to do something that they are elected to do, do their job when they go to washington and been unable or unwilling to do it. >> both pieces that both parties want. the republicans want those borders enforced. a coalition that sort of moderates and both parties ...

Believed dead. look, these are very, very bad guys and there's a security argument for taking them out. if we're going to make that argument, let's do it openly. too often in post 9/11 national security policy, secrecy has been used as a sledge hammer when it could be use the as a scalpel, which is what this court argues for, revealing targeting portions including the rationale behind the killings while still safeguarding operational details. joining me now is attorney par d dis krxcariba. tell us what th significance of this particular ruling is. what's the broader impact? >> i think it's sig...

Consideration. >> if the 911 commission recommended it as well and it is available, what's the problem? >> well that's a good question. there's plenty of compelling reasons to do this. some might say cost is the problem but one of the certainlies like the search under way now for this malaysia airliner the cost of that sort of surge would pay for these things indefinitely. so there's no comparison. there's also the security argument where we need to know as soon as we can whether there was a terrorist attack or some other eventuality and closure for these families who have the agony of a long ...