Not only the president, but joe biden having always been in that view in coordination with others on the team like dennis mcdonough and tom donilon, really recall the deal and the terms of the deal and they took the troops back. and that broke the back of a notion that a large military footprint delivered automatically the kind of security deliverables that the military was promising. it actually created blowback and counterreaction much like the alliance that you showed in that piece that there is more violence after the surge than before the surge. >> that i think is the key conceptual that ...