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Bathroom now and i'm not even defending them but i hate to say the term billionaire of lamb. to be honest, howard schultz is the epitome of the american dream. he grew up in housing project and turned into the guy who created starbucks that is inspirational. it is aspirational. that being said, i'm a dunkin donuts man not a starbucks fan. it has better table conversations when you get a coffee at starbucks and eavesdropped on the people next to the talking about. >> house the developing in la and having an argument with her lawyer about what they can put down but go to dunkin' donuts the guy i...

Americans and other westerners have fallen into, when moscow wants something, they get sort of scooped up and a story is created out of moscow as to why that happened, usually involving some sort of alleged spying activity. which is not what happened here. >> if he is innocent, then why do you think he was picked, out of all of the americans who may be working and visiting in russia right now, why him? >> one possibility, it is pretty much random. he is an american. he was in russia at the time that butina was being sentenced. and that may have played a role. i think though that it is also the...

What message do i need to transmit to the american people. bottom line, i suspect that the president has never in almost two years directed the full national security council to meet on how to counter russian interference in american elections. amazing. > how alarming to you, you said as a security guy, right? how alarming is it that the nation's commander in chief is so blase about the russians. >> the alarming part is not what the russians can do. they're a third world economy. we can beat them military wise. the question is what everyday american who are looking at facebook and twitter, how...

Intervention in the election which was as you knew, something that every intelligence agency agreed upon, that is what russia did during the election, any president looks at his national security adviser and says look, the fbi can speak, the cia can speak in, terms of talk together american people, there is one microphone and that's the president of the united states. that president turns around within a couple days of coming into office and tells his national security adviser bring everybody in the room. defense, state, cia, fbi, treasury and asks them how can we ensure that we protect oursel...

Useful meetings, that indicates that this wasn't being taken seriously by the russians to begin with. good call by the president. >> neil: as a security guy that deals with foreign elements and nefarious elements at that, and you see all the charges have gone back and forth and whether the president or candidate donald trump had close ties with the russians, do you see anything in donald trump's behavior since becoming president regardless of these charges, true or not that would hint of someone beholden to the russians and vladimir putin and trying not to defend them? >> actions speak stronge...