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He goes on to, right given, those realities and the pressing need to concentrate american power in east asia to counter china, it's clear enough where an ideal retreat could end up with nato expansion permanently tabled, with ukraine subject to inevitable russian pressure but neither invaded nor, annexed and with our nato allies soldering more of the border of retaining a security perimeter in eastern europe. do you disagree with that? >> yes and no. first of all, president biden agreed with that. he would be a one term president. i think it's very important to understand their domestic politi...

U.s. government on how to contain problems, disasters, vulnerabilities. trying to provide that expertise the ukrainians, if they can maintain control of that facility and the security perimeter. not being a nuclear expert myself, what did remind me of is the fukushima disaster in japan after the tsunami. where, the u.s. experts were kind of, in constant contact with the japanese about how do you contain any kind of potential fallout. and how to avoid an ex -- hopefully this does not end up at the scale of what fukushima was. but there is some theory echoes of it. when you talk about fires, and...

Sit there without a security perimeter. when you're outnumbered, outmanned, outweaponned you don't have the opportunity to lose a 12-man team to shoot javelins on a convoy you might use a plane against. will they be effective in insurgency situation? absolutely. right now the ukrainians are holding on to the idea they will get air support and get conventional military support. pete: scott, real quick, last word? >> i would say when it comes, there is nothing more powerful and inspired and motivated partisan fighting for the freedom. whether the molotov cocktail or a javelin, you will be in for...

Regular transfers, especially abroad. so, we decided to use crypto in order to fund-raise. this was really hectic, but we managed to partner with the private group exchange from ukraine, and they helped us establish a security perimeter so we could exchange mechanisms. we announced that basically, we were ready to get donations of bitcoin and it was beyond our expectations. the world community started to donate millions of dollars. so we managed to raise around $7 million in crypto. this is really what is helping our army. it was really helpful during the first day of the war, where payments i...

>> so, after two days of war we realized that the national bank of ukraine was severely limited for commercial banks and regular transfers, especially abroad. so, we decided to use crypto in order to fund-raise. this was really hectic, but we managed to partner with the private group exchange from ukraine, and they helped us establish a security perimeter so we could exchange mechanisms. we announced that basically, we were ready to get the nations bitcoin -- and it was beyond our expectations. the world community started to donate millions of dollars. so we managed to raise around $7 million ...