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There was a big part of the ukraine agenda, as you just noted, bolstering support, a chance, as you mentioned, for zelensky to get his message across to some of the most important developing world leaders that he hasn't dealt with. but i think, from the japanese perspective, there was a big security piece of the agenda, some of which was about ukraine, some of which was about trying to get leaders to look at security in asia and europe in a more indivisible way, giving the right strategic weight to taiwan, the south china sea, some of these issues as well. but i think there's also a large part...

Concerns about tiktok. one is first the security piece. the university didn't want people using tiktok connecting to the wifi. is there a code on that device or code within the application that could potentially be exploited. that's the first piece. the second piece is the collection of personally identifiable information. and certainly we have all heard about this. china has been doing this by targeting u.s. companies to collect puu so they could use it to potentially build dossiers on americans and use it for some type of espionage. the third piece, and one of the larger concerns, is the mis...

Security piece. this is where there's been some back and forth between the biden administration and members of congress is where is the securitization right now? the biden administration arguing that in fact, al qaeda has not been able to regenerate since the u.s. withdrew last summer and there are a small number of al qaeda fighters there. what they aren't talking about is isisk and before the taliban took over the country they released some hundreds and we don't know how many, potentially more than a thousand isis fighters into the country. well, now a centcom spokesperson is telling me they...

Immigration and border control act. >> reform and control act. steve: the idea was we'll toughen you have the border, control the border t and also ge work permits to people who come in and that's all going to be fine. basically they give one side of it to people who are coming in but not the other side. do you agree with that? >> 100%. ronald reagan was tough on immigration. but congress did not give the border patrol or immigration and naturalization service -- they didn't give ins the resources to go look for these companies that hire illegal aliens and never you gave it border security pie...

Be bulletproof, and to my knowledge, they are -- the tests have proven them to be an effective barrier between the flight deck and the cabin. >> have you ever been on a flight where there has been a known entity while you were in the cockpit, a danger like that present on a flight, and if so, how does one react to that? >> well, we train for that on a regular basis. i mean, every week, our training has a security piece to it, and it varies from year to year, but the safety and security is taken extremely seriously, and any events that happen anywhere in the system are made known to all the air...