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And we can put it together and were putting the ball under borders and walls around the schools. get money together and let's get this done. greg: soft targets. let me get kat in here. what this comes down to is make more laws, more security and i would question whether libertarian is okay with that. kat: you have to be careful in terms of how effective it would actually be. a lot of what goes on in airports is security theater. it doesn't actually makes us safer but moves the danger zone outside the airport. you have to be careful. but the way this has been discussed is disgusting to me when ...

My opinion protecting our kids and we can put it together and were putting the ball under borders and walls around the schools. get money together and let's get this done. greg: soft targets. let me get kat in here. what this comes down to is make more laws, more security and i would question whether libertarian is okay with that. kat: you have to be careful in terms of how effective it would actually be. a lot of what goes on in airports is security theater. it doesn't actually makes us safer but moves the danger zone outside the airport. you have to be careful. but the way this has been disc...

My opinion protecting our kids and we can put it together and were putting the ball under borders and walls around the schools. get money together and let's get this done. greg: soft targets. let me get kat in here. what this comes down to is make more laws, more security and i would question whether libertarian is okay with that. kat: you have to be careful in terms of how effective it would actually be. a lot of what goes on in airports is security theater. it doesn't actually makes us safer but moves the danger zone outside the airport. you have to be careful. but the way this has been disc...

President sees the military as play toy. >> this is security theater. election year politicking. >> he wants the image. >> it conjures up soldiers with by a owenet -- by bayonets and rio grande. >> it precipitates a security crisis to get people killed. >> this is based on the whim of impetuous and reactive president. >> he is using the national guard to create hysteria that there is a national emergency. using the taxpayers dollars to booster the low poll numbers with the base. >> katie: someone who agrees with the voices you heard, hernandez. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having...

The whole thing capitulated in mexico cooperating. he won this round in a highly visual manner. the new media angle is this wasn't a story until trump needed one. nobody ever knew about this caravan. well, you're absolutely right. you figured out how trump worked. he takes a story that the media ignores and then he makes it his story. look at kate steinle. he takes something that is very visual that people understand, and he makes it a national stor story. much like what fox news does. we tackle stories the rest of the media doesn't cover. >> kimberly: one follow-up. very good so far. how abou...