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Other militaries could exploit the security vacuum to stage their own jailbreak. that is what people in iraq and jordan and all throughout the region is the caliphate reconstitutesing itself. >> well, that is not sounding sexist, matt, but realist, and thank you for the assessment. we go do hans nichols, and we know that the president is monitoring this situation, but what is he saying about all of this? >> well, last night he gave the explanation of why he is withdrawing the troops and why he wanted to get back to the middle east and going back to the core campaign promises. this morning we a...

Leave, a possibly reconstitute that caliphate declared over back in march. now, we need to stress here, alex that these are women and children. these are not among the fighters who are still being held, though there has been video circulating on the social media riots insid the isis prisons, because clearly some of the people feel they can take advantage of the security vacuum. we heard from sdf which is mostly kurdish force allied with the u.s., that guarding the prisoners would be the second priority and the first priority is to defend themselves from the incursion of the turks coming in to ...

And try to claim credit for attacks even if they are not the perpetrators. but when you have a power vacuum or a security vacuum you create a space for a group like isis to reform, coalesce and strike again. >> and you spoke with u.s. special operators in syria and what are they saying about the turkish operation. >> reporter: we went into a u.s. special fortss base earlier. no, sir of the special forces would speak to us on camera but it is a very uncomfortable dynamic for them, jake. because their base is being guarded by kurdish forces. same kurdish forces who were fighting on the front lin...

Red-handed. ally. here is a man who is on tape i can empathize with that saying exactly what he is going to do in terms of corruption special forces soldier. i felt shame when we pulled out and he gets away with it. if that ever happened to a of iraq in 2011. i felt like we left the kurds republican, they would get the electric chair. high and dry then and the >> bill: you were standing just country of iraq in a security behind him over his right-hand shoulder. vacuum. isis filled that gap. your reaction when you hear we cannot allow that to happen that. >> he is correct. again. i feel for tha...

Prisons. angel is worry a new -- in syria could lead to a security vacuum that allows those prisoners to escape. they also control a camp home to more than 70,000 people. mostly the wives and children of isis fighters. joining me now to have a closer look at this, a foreign correspondent for the "new york times" who covers islamices extremism including isis and at the national security counsel. also served as spokesperson for the u.s. mission to the united nations. also a former treasury department spokesperson for terrorism and financial intelligence. brook, let's start with you and the isis ...