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at the inception each of these investigations in the same way. by bringing in a special counsel to review the biden side of this document saga, i think the attorney general has done exactly that. he needs to now resource it in the same way that he has the other special counsel, he needs to step away from it. not subjected to the sort of day-to-day oversight that you have given maybe two u.s. attorney. that seems to be the way he's treating jack smith. i have no doubt he'll do those things. but from this point forward, laura, these cases will go, i suspect, in very different direction...

two 2024 potential candidates investigated by a special council, we'll bring in former fbi director andrew mccabe and former white house council john dean, you got two presidents under investigation, and now by special counsel, both about mishandling of classified documents, there's a fork in the road where each of their behavior seems to go in different directions but very significant, nonetheless to have these investigation >> absolutely. significant and i think you know, that's what this moment calls for, it calls for the justice department to handle at least at the inception each...

On some of the same videos that the government relied on. try to get the jury to say, well, maybe there is another way to look at this. so, that's what the effort will be, you know as well as anyone, laura, how juries are juries and they will see what they want to see, and they will reach a judgment as i think it's one of the great institutions of a democracy, to trust what those people see in each case. so, we'll all stay tuned to see if this defense does work. >> i am curious on that point, john, i want you to weigh in to, andrew, the idea what impact do you think this has, knowing that ther...

People see in each case. so we'll stay tuned to see if this defense work >> i'm curious on that point john, weigh in too, andrew, idea, quickly the idea what impact do you think this has knowing there's already been that successful at least in part prosecution of the oath keepers? will it have an impact you think in connection with the january 6 committee? >> well it certainly educated the government on how to proceed what was strong, what worked with the jury, what they interviewed the jury afterwards, i don't know. but it shows they can make a seditious conspiracy work, it's a difficult stan...