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Of whether the San Jose Ethics Commission has ever handled either on an advisorry basis or otherwise complaint referal from the different jurisdictional agencies . I have staffed the san jose Election Commission from 2008 and we have not ever accepted any such referals. Has the Elections Commission made any referals themselves for matters to be handled by a agency outside of san jose . The Election Commission procedures and i think that our ethics ordinance do have some provisions for making referals. But that is generally in the nature of the District Attorney office or their political practi...

Procedures that your commission has in reviewing these referals from the Sunshine Ordinance Task force to refer that to another adjudicatory body completely. It is one thing to have a staff person to review in place of Ethics Commission staff and you know, conform the analysis, based on proceedings before the task force. I think that it is another to send the ultimate decision to another body. It is actually being transcribed. On the screen. Miss herrick, thank you for your time and i have a couple of questions about your response. Does that mean. Are you aware of whether the san jose Ethics C...

Thank you. I am so sorry. I am lisa herrick and i was asked to review the referal from the Sunshine Task force, Sunshine Ordinance Task force and i agree with mr. Gibner that i am not sure that there is a Legal Authority under the procedures that your commission has in reviewing these referals from the Sunshine Ordinance Task force to refer that to another adjudicatory body completely. It is one thing to have a staff person to review in place of Ethics Commission staff and you know, conform the analysis, based on proceedings before the task force. I think that it is another to send the ultimat...

Possibility would be that we want to proceed and there may be complicated issues that we will want to know on the merits as well. I am not sharp and final, but i am actually what i am hearing is making me feel that we may have to do it, and there is. And less reason that we cant do it in terms of the direct, you no, do we have a conflict . We ask, you know, with regard to the city officials all of the time, who where the situation is sensitive and we are all working for the city, and we have those kinds of concerns. I havent heard anything that said why we in particular would be unable to deal...

Because we have not heard the whole presentation and asked the questions. Perhaps we can ask miss herrick if san jose was asked to take the whole matter and if that is something that they would even consider doing. I dont know whether the City Attorney staff person will be able to speak for the commission. Perhaps not. But perhaps she could answer the first question, at least. Unless we know, does anybody. Do you know that . Do you know . I believe that it was the City Attorneys office that was asked to handle this matter. The investigation. The investigation, yes. Thank you. I am so sorry. I ...