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Congress might then decide that they want to compel navarro. if doj won't enforce their subpoenas, they need to have some way to get this testimony, they can do that by giving navarro immunity and compelling him to testify. >> right. >> but doj may have some concerns at that point. >> right. so, there's more than one avenue there. look, our panel stays. i promised folks we would get more in depth, and i want to do that right now because the january 6 committee wants to know more than one thing from navarro. they want him under oath about the sweep, as we've been discussing. it's been 36 days s...

Democrats won the midterm elections. what do you mean by that? >> now he has an antagonist, now he has a foil. that may be a cover-up for an election lost, but there is a point for this. he does like having a fight, he likes having something to go after. remember, both bill clinton and barack obama lost control of parts of congress in their first midterm elections like donald trump and yet went on to win reelection in part because they had somebody to play off of and tell the electorates, see, i'm better than those guys. that's what president trump wants to do here. >> so he would rather be sp...