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Huge self-defense capability. south korea, australia, taiwan as a quarter million people on the active reserve military. so we should assume with wise policy that we will deter chinese aggression. it will be trouble, but tracy as you pointed out earlier, he -- to add potentially nine more intermittent u.s. bases to complete the island chain deterrents of china. so we are not going to go to war with china unless there is a terrible miscalculation by the pla. >> tracey walter and general barry mccaffrey, thank you both. next, a former prosecutor with [inaudible] matt infamous mafia don. as his l...

Capability. we have allies of japan, with a huge self-defense capability. of south korea, australia. taiwan has a couple million people on the reserve. so we should assume, with a wise policy. that we will deter chinese aggression, it will be trouble. lloyd austin pointed out earlier that this completed a very successful trip to the philippines, to add potentially nine more intermittent u.s. bases to complete the island train and the appearance of china. so we will go to war with china unless there is a complete miscalculation by the pla. >> tracy and barry mccaffrey thank you both. next, they...

Iran? >> i don't think that that's the russian intent. we're focused on the other threats as well. general mackenzie is in the middle east right now and he just visited the emirates to talk about additional self-defense capability that might need additional resources. we have a very robust presence in the endo pacific. we're watching pyongyang and their continued pursuit of nuclear weapons and increasing ballistic missile precision. all of these things are happening at once. you're right about that. the u.s. department of defense is focused on that. i would add that one of our great strengths ...

The infrastructure to support that. before making a move like that. the backlash from that would be too severe. and the thing i have been saying, if we want to be able to heat our homes right now. then we cannot exclude russia from swift so quickly. >> general, i want to ask you more about the idea of ukraine fighting this on their own. i want to put up a map of the nato alliance. ukraine is surrounded by nato countries. nato countries are by treaty compelled to defend each other. but no one is compelled by treaty to defend ukraine. >> well no question neither european union or nato member. it...

Will not get ahead of decisions and options that the president is going to consider. so i don't want you to read more or listen to that, louis, i'm not trying to signal that something is in the offering. back to my answer to tom, we provided tens of millions of dollars in the last year, less than a year to assist ukraine in self-defense capability. as the secretary himself said, we will constantly review that and look at that and make whatever appropriate recommendations going forward. but i will not get ahead of the president or the administration on this. and then on your second question abo...