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Saying i know you all didn't want me. you wanted alition walker "the color purple." instead you got the woman known for one thing, the color of her hair. so she made jokes about her jewelry and her clothes and the way she wasn't jackie kennedy. >> that came through to you as well? >> absolutely. she had a great way of using self depricating humor to disarm people. she was speaking to a group of plastic surgeons and she was fearful that everybody in the room were going to rush the stage to get their hands on her. she told the secret service under no circumstances were the plastic surgeons allow...

There was also that renewed twitter fight with ag jeff sessions. washington post story using words like angry and isolated to describe the president. leading surrogates defend trump's mental state today. watch this. >> his state of mind is fine. if you went to the gridiron last night, which i did and others did, he was very relaxed. self depricating. he had some very good humorous lines. i don't see any problem with his behavior at all. >> the drama is there. but that is how the president makes decisions and that process, while different, has gotten to good results. >> and to raise more of tho...

That's not what i meant. don't set things up in a way -- part of the advanced planning would be let's not step in that if we're not meaning to step in that. that's the situation you've got right now when you're talking about what went on there. that's for the advance team, what's the backdrop? maybe not andrew swraksen's portrait. also for the president f you're going to make a joke about pocahontas, make it more self depr depra krc depricate iing than you did. >> he doesn't do self depricating. >> exactly. >> here is sarah sanders, the suppress secretary, trying to explain it. >> why did he f...

To do. how he owns his own skills tactically. i'm here to help them achieve those. >> you is a cattle ranch. you don't want to say anything about the senator calling and suggesting you've been gelded before the world and it is not anything that bothers you? >> i checked. i'm fully in tact. >> i did not expect that answer. >> joining me now to talk more about this, washington bureau chief for the "chicago sun-times" and assistant editor for "the washington post," good to see you both this sunday. so you have tillerson clearly didn't want to go there saying it is the game in washington that he j...

>> i'm actually surprised. one thing about trump that you have to give him is that he has the most genius sense of the press and how to use, manipulate, twist. i think he's making the wrong mob mo move. i think him showing up, making fun of the press, making fun of himself, almost defusing a little bit, to me, would be very clever. i think the reason he's not doing it -- because it's such an obvious thing to do -- then he does have that same club to use anymore. on the one hand, it would be a way for him to go in there and very self depricatingly bring those worlds together. it tells me that h...