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> this is in the epilog to your book. you write the founding fathers hoped that all future presidents would be people of sagacity, self-restraint, honesty, experience, character and profound respect for democratic ideals. they iept anticipated that any chief executive would strain to avoid taking the nation into conflict except to confront a genuine immediate national danger. are we living up to that hope right now? >> i don't think so because the founders just in terms of temperament, they were thinking of george washington. one reason why in the constitution they're pretty vague what a presi...

These debriefings with cohen and manafort are bringing forth from an investigative point of view. >> do you think with the white house sailiying the trump rosenstein meeting will happen further, would it age well in business? >> let me look at trump's perspective -- >> as you always do. >> he has shown amazing self-restraint on this front and has not tweeted that much about it. you know, calmly noted last week that he would not bring this up on the day of the testimony of christine ford and brett kavanaugh and not create even more chaos. we know he likes to create chaos. >> are you low-key com...

Really not an organization, it's not a company of any kind. it's just a whole bunch of groups put together and names associated with it. >> it's not like a huge complex like business with a ton of employees, right? >> no, it's not. and it doesn't have, you know, like an organizational chart. we used to say there would be an organizational chart would be donald on the top and everybody else because that's basically the way it was run. but as far as them running the organization is concerned i think it probably pretty much runs itself in terms of day-to-day operations and that kind of thing. and...

Aliens. but not a high carb alien. >> emily: dana, would you be less attracted -- is your husband a vegetarian? >> dana: no. [laughs] not in any way. my family has cattle ranches. i encourage everyone to eat meat. i got to go on safari in africa. we had a guide who explained if you have eyes in front of your head, you are meant to chase. you are meant to chase so you can get meat. that's what you're supposed supposed to eat. animals with eyes on the sides, they are supposed to gather. >> greg: that's crazy. >> dana: makes total sense to me. >> emily: jesse, have you taken a bite? >> jesse: no,...

What if you decided not to demand that they be fired? these may not be reciprocated, i know it won't be. tucker, if you are nice online or i'm nice online, it's not like media matters is going to do the same to us. >> if you are totally right. it begins with our self restraint. actually, will you come back on for christmas? >> i remind myself of this every time i turn on the laptop and i think, don't be a jerk. once you get online you are a lesser version of you, never a better version. >> that is very smart. greg gutfeld, thank you for that. >> greg does not have to wait for christmas, greg w...