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Grifters. of selling stuff and exploiting people. and these critics say that this behavior was on full display at the conservative political action committee conference, that's cpac, this week. so i want to unpack what this means, this grifting idea. here to discuss it, bill crystal, director of democracy together. washington correspondent, olivia nuzzi and oliver darcy, fresh back from cpac. oliver, grifting, what does it mean, and why is it coming up so often these days? >> it's basically this idea of exploiting gullible people to sell something, to raise your brand, awareness, and i think i...

Dea materials. but from our agent who is are down there, i can tell you wfro talking to the governors. if i were to tell a family or community, don't worry about it. those communities should say we should have zero criminals in our midst. >> we asked for a follow up interview to discuss what i saw in south texas. she declined. the president's executive order has ended the separation of families for now. but what we have seen and heard for the last four months has made it very clear that border security is an issue that's a long way from being solved. at the point where the rio grand flows into...

That's how he feels about the company. another big mover, amazon. he said a mistake and said he wish he got in early when the company was smaller. amazon climbing higher. they do everything. nothing they don't do. they're going to financials, healthcare. selling stuff, walking into our homes. they have access to all kinds of points of data and that is share price and the earnings is reflecting that. that's why the tech sector is higher. >> oil was so low. we got entitled. is there a projection on where this is going? >> right now the expectation, we should is a dip in this very short term, the...

From what the trump brand used to do. >> i want to share more of what eric trump had to say about this. >> we don't talk about the activities of the business, what we're doing in the business. we just don't mix the separation -- >> showing profit reports doesn't blur the lines? >> doesn't blur the lines. >> the president of the united states has zero conflicts of interest. zero. >> they're not going to share profits because the numbers are too complicated but they're sharing the spirit and idea. >> they're basically spray painting the brand over all the hotels. of course the president will vis...

Do you know what? i'm 100%. >> 6:00 a.m. >> this is a terrorist attack. you know what? take the firearms away. what are you going to do with the 12 damn bombs? what are you going to do? stop selling stuff to make bombs next? this is the most-ridiculous thing. and democrats jumping on the band wagon. we have 14 dead people and 20 people not going home for christmas. this really upsets me. >> let me ask pam this question. you're talking about 15 pipe bombs, 15 rounds of ammunition, and equipment to make eids. you have the pakistani passport. the father saying he's a devout muslim and the report ...