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Mayor rahm emanuel. >> well, i think that it's sort of undeniable. this is now sort of mayor em emanuel's a problem. he's now halfway through his first term and this really will determine much of the success or failure and how this term is viewed is how he does handle this issue. as you said, there are more than 500 homicides in chicago last year. that's more than the new york city, which of course has far more people. so far this year there have been about 50 homicides, even though we're barely through the middle of february. this is a problem this city is facing. it was a problem that the pr...

That you cannot say that to me. but then you go out and you -- >> so he's accepting failure is what he is. >> well, no. he's saying he's not going to fund it. so what do you do? you take places that are on their way up, you take them over ksz and then you start touting these numbers that aren't true. twice as much support. at best, the turnaround schools give three months of extra support. three months of growth at best. >> here's more from former chief of staff of president obama rahm em emanuel. >> change is hard, but watching year in and year out kids capture in a system that's failing is h...