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Wyoming. i like the state. it's the huge swath of people that are progun. >> what's happened to gun culture over the past 10 to 20 years. we've gone from your bolt action pistols that people use for hunting but that wasn't going to last forever. and the nra knew that. they knew that hunting culture is decreasing. so they start pushing the semi automatic weapons and pump out the fear and paranoia as well convincing people that they need the semi alms to defend themselves, these pistols are not going to do the trick. you need street weapons, war weapons to defend yourself. >> how do you use one ...

To be in circulation. obviously, australia went a completely different direction and took away guns. there was a huge amnesty and ban on semi automatic and automatic weapons. tell me what you think of the logic that more guns means less gun crime. >> well, you've done well over there. you've got 215 million guns in the u.s. of a. you have semi alms and alms in the suburbs. we don't in australia and we have freedom and sporting shooters still have rights to have guns. farmers have the right to have guns. anyone with licensing has the right, but we don't have gun shows where you can walk up and ...

To be in circulation. obviously, australia went a completely different direction and took away guns. there was a huge amnesty and ban on semi automatic and automatic weapons. tell me what you think of the logic that more guns means less gun crime. >> well, you've done well over there. you've got 215 million guns in the u.s. of a. you have semi alms and alms in the suburbs. we don't in australia and we have freedom and sporting shooters still have rights to have guns. farmers have the right to have guns. anyone with licensing has the right, but we don't have gun shows where you can walk up and ...

People that the only way to deal with gun violence is for more people to be armed and more guns to be in circulation. obviously, australia went a completely different direction and took away guns. there was a huge amnesty and ban on semi automatic and automatic weapons. tell me what you think of the logic that more guns means less gun crime. >> well, you've done well over there. you've got 215 million guns in the u.s. of a. you have semi alms and alms in the suburbs. we don't in australia and we have freedom and sporting shooters still have rights to have guns. farmers have the right to have g...