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People weren't as jazzed up. and so whether it be kamala, whether it be biden, whomever, at the end of the day the conversations are going to have to reach the hearts and minds and souls of people who should be the most likely voters in the democratic party to come out furiously with a lot of energy to get rid of donald trump. what we're seeing right now is we're seeing trump nitpick at whoever the person might feel like is the front-runner of the moment because they have a strategy to depress enthusiasm among democrats. we can't let them do that. of course, of course having unity as a party d...

>> i can't pronounce the name. star trek next generation. >> was he an alien? >> a humanoid. so we had him on and he has been on what? three four times, always a respectful conversation but he doesn't like you. >> no. he said you were dismissive, patronizing and condescending. >> wow. >> it's a long list? >> in one interview. >> second interview talking about race and zimmerman. i think at the end he perceived you were giving him a home work assignment. you said do a little research looks like young black male disproportionately commit crimes owe opposed to the rest of the population he was ph...

>> i can't pronounce the name. star trek next generation. >> was he an alien? >> a humanoid. so we had him on and he has been on what? three four times, always a respectful conversation but he doesn't like you. >> no. he said you were dismissive, patronizing and condescending. >> wow. >> it's a long list? >> in one interview. >> second interview talking about race and zimmerman. i think at the end he perceived you were giving him a home work assignment. you said do a little research looks like young black male disproportionately commit crimes owe opposed to the rest of the population he was ph...