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Nation's solicitor general making part of that side's oral argument. the other part of the pro gay rights oral argument will be made by this man, the former solicitor general from the last presidency, ted olson, theodore olson and probably the most recognizable conservative legal figure in the country who is not himself a supreme court justice. ted olson was george w. bush's solicitor general. me played the role of joe biden to prep paul ryan for the vice presidential debate this past presidential election. ted olson the bush versus gore debate. it's ted olson and boyce who he beat are both on...

Tomorrow's arguments the lawyer for the anti-gay side will get equal full-time and the lawyer on that side of the case is a man named -- chuck cooper. chuck cooper. chuck cooper. to the google, right? on the first page of google search results for chuck cooper, you will not find what you are looking for. the first results is this very nice website, i think we've got it, yes, for the broadway actor named chuck cooper. he is very talented, very famous on broadway. he is not the chuck cooper making the anti-gay rights argument at the supreme court tomorrow. other first page results for chuck coop...

Think, about 20 years. you've been there through lots of legislative sessions. what's happening now? why does this year seem different in your perspective, in terms of the kinds anti-abortion legislation you're dealing with and the different political dynamics? >> you sort of touched on it earlier, with senator olson, who lost his seat in redistricting in the last session. personhood usa used him as an example. they said, look at what happens. when you mess with you, we'll mess with you. so i think it emboldened some of those who are against us to say, you know, if you mess with us, we're goin...

Making the anti-gay rights argument, neither is the chuck cooper who is an insurance agent in mississippi, neither the chuck cooper who is a real estate agent in california, neither is the chuck cooper who is the wiring and cable manufacturer sales representative either. in order to get anywhere near anything useful about this chuck cooper who is making the anti-gay rights argument at the supreme court tomorrow, you must call upon the wikipedia disambiguation page, where you'll be able to narrow it down to, finally, that must be him, chuck cooper, former supreme court clerk, now a lawyer, most...

You've been there through lots of legislative sessions. what's happening now? why does this year seem different in your perspective, in terms of the kinds anti-abortion legislation you're dealing with and the different political dynamics? >> you sort of touched on it earlier, with senator olson, who lost his seat in redistricting in the last session. personhood usa used him as an example. they said, look at what happens. when you mess with you, we'll mess with you. so i think it emboldened some of those who are against us to say, you know, if you mess with us, we're going to do this. and then,...