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Produce just a paltry $155 billion in real deficit reduction over ten years, total. that's over the whole ten years. despite proposing the most severe budget cuts in u.s. history, two-thirds of which would come from programs for people of low or moderate incomes. ryan's plan in fact ignores the most important elements for long-term fiscal health. taxes, defense and health care costs. today taxes is a percentage of our gdp is at a 60-year low. the defense budget has almost ç doubled in just the last decade. that's in real dollars. a plan that was serious will long-term deficit recushion would...

First day. david brooks wrote a long love letter in the "new york times" to it, a lot of swooning, and as the details have coming out that's seemed to unravel, what do you make of it? >> i can't wait until the 2012 election. what the ryan plan does is put the seniors o plan is a way of taking money away from seniors and giving it to insurance companies. >> i don't know about you, governor, when i'm 82 years old, i don't want to be getting on my old vintage mac book and looking at my health insurance forms and fighting with hmos over payment. >> it's not going to happen. >> on my condition. >> ...

To it, a lot of swooning, and as the details have coming out that's seemed to unravel, what do you make of it? >> i can't wait until the 2012 election. what the ryan plan does is put the seniors o plan is a way of taking money away from seniors and giving it to insurance companies. >> i don't know about you, governor, when i'm 82 years old, i don't want to be getting on my old vintageç mac book and lookg at my health insurance forms and fighting with hmos over payment. >> it's not going to happen. >> on my condition. >> the numbers on the ryan plan are going to crater. already starting to go...

Billion in real deficit reduction over ten years, total. that's over the whole ten years. despite proposing the most severe budget cuts in u.s. history, two-thirds of which would come from programs for people of low or moderate incomes. ryan's plan in fact ignores the most important elements for long-term fiscal health. taxes, defense and health care costs. today taxes is a percentage of our gdp is at a 60-year low. the defense budget has almost doubled in just the last decade. that's in real dollars. a plan that was serious will long-term deficit recushion would dramatically cut defense spend...

Cuts and take all tax cuts back to the clinton era at least and find a way to slow the growth of health care costs. the republican plan does not do any of these things. we'll see if the white house offers a plan that makes sense tomorrow. joining me now is former governor howard dean. it's got a lot of praise on its first day. david brooks wrote a long love letter in the "new york times"