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By almost 108 million votes. they won it very narrowly in 2016. that's a big swing against the president. for me that was a moment. the markets began to slip in october. the elections went badly for the republicans in november. jim mattis resigns as secretary of defense in december and donald trump gratuitously goes after him, gets in a fight with many retired senior military officers, all men of great distinction as it happens. now we have a government shutdown, an awful lot of people don't see the point of and they don't see why we're shutting down 6 or 7 or 8 agencies for the sake of a figh...

That's a big swing against the president. for me that was a moment. the markets began to slip in october. the elections went badly for the republicans in november. jim mattis resigns as secretary of defense in december and donald trump gratuitously goes after him, gets in a fight with many retired senior military officers, all men of great distinction as it happens. now we have a government shutdown, an awful lot of people don't see the point of and they don't see why we're shutting down 6 or 7 or 8 agencies for the sake of a fight over the wall. trump is being stubborn. and then we have the m...

Affair going on. jenna: that doesn't sound right to you, something in that you still feel like there's some questions that need to be answered about the timing of the investigation, who knew what when. >> yes. jenna: okay, let's leave that there and get to the national security issue. you know, jennifer griffin just reported to us what we've seen from paula broadwell giving a speech talking about these militants that were apparently prisoners at the annex, jennifer griffin has done some independent reporting that has also said that. do you get the sense ha in any -- that in any way somehow our...