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And so the president continues, mika, to play games with people's lives to get what he wants whether it's the 800,000 daca participants or now the little children at our borders to get what he wants and then -- par for the course -- when he can't come up with a rational explanation he lies about it or blames the democrats or both. he never takes responsibility for the harm that he causes. >> katie kay? >> senator, i was wondering, most of your democrats clearly -- the president is not just holding these children as leverage, he's also in a sense holding democrats in congress as leverage and we...

He came out and said what he did before the election. but president obama didn't fire him. there traent obedient obviously an open investigation in president obama. but in isn't about who likes him and didn't like him we need to move beyond that. the issue here is the timing. the fact that there is open investigation into associates of in president. it's something that republicans frankly in congress, senators, members of the house should be very concerned about. we've seen some come out. but i think we're honestly giving too much credit beyond john mcmahon who called fo independent prosecutor...

Senators, members of the house should be concerned about. i think we're honestly giving too much credit -- others have said they're concerned, discouraging. if they're not calling for an independent prosecutor, people should question their patriotism and what they think should happen to get to the bottom of this. >> just because somebody doesn't want an independent prosecutor doesn't mean they're in cuhuts with russia. >> they're in a sense holding back on this investigation moving forward. when you have the only person leading the investigation going forward, you need an outside person doing ...